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Transcript of Interview with ECB Governing Council Member Centeno

Transcript of Interview with ECB Governing Council Member Centeno

By Xavier D’Arcy – SINTRA, Portugal (Econostream) - Following is the full transcript of the interview conducted by Econostream on 27 June with Mário Centeno, Governor of Banco de Portugal and member of the Governing Council of the European Central Bank:

28 June 2023
Exclusive: ECB Should Not Pre-Commit to July Hike, Centeno Says

Exclusive: ECB Should Not Pre-Commit to July Hike, Centeno Says

- Centeno: ‘We better be careful about producing substantial statements about the future’
- Centeno: Announcing decisions ahead of time ‘goes against the strategy’
- Centeno: Governing Council ‘will speak in July’ about what to do
- Centeno: 2024 rate cut ‘compatible with a reduction of inflation to 2% in the medium term’
- Centeno: ECB staff projections ‘may be optimistic in terms of GDP’ and ‘pessimistic on inflation’
- Centeno: ‘How can I be stressed about a projection that says that in 2025 […] inflation is 2.2%?’
- Centeno: Baseline ECB scenario is ‘end to the inflationary process without […] major disruptions’
- Centeno: Pass-through from rate hikes ‘may come abruptly’
- Centeno: Eurozone labour market ‘much more fluid’

28 June 2023
Exclusive: ECB’s Kazāks: In No Hurry to Start Active Sales of Balance Sheet Assets

Exclusive: ECB’s Kazāks: In No Hurry to Start Active Sales of Balance Sheet Assets

- Kazāks: PEPP reinvestment important for flexibility reasons
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Kazāks: No need for any changes to the PEPP reinvestment at the moment
- Kazāks: Balance sheet adjustment ‘very much driven by the TLTROs’
- Kazāks: Fiscal policy must become less expansionary, or rates will have to go up even more
- Kazāks: Rates should stay high ‘
as long as inflation is not significantly undershooting the target’
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Kazāks: Expectation of rate cut in 1H 2024 ‘inconsistent with the baseline macro scenario’
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Kazāks: ‘We will not be done, in my view, in July, and there will be more rate hikes necessary’
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Kazāks: ‘If necessary, we can take a pause and then return to rate hikes’
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Kazāks: ‘The risks of doing too little are higher than the risks of doing too much’
- Kazāks: Lagarde ‘very skilful in getting almost all of us behind every one of our decisions’

28 June 2023
Exclusive: Agence France Trésor Head: ‘Do Not Expect Any Changes’ to 2023 Funding Target

Exclusive: Agence France Trésor Head: ‘Do Not Expect Any Changes’ to 2023 Funding Target

- AFT's Rousseau sees ‘slightly higher demand’ for domestic inflation-linked products
- AFT's Rousseau: 10% inflation-linked target ‘not a fixed target but rather a soft one’
- AFT's Rousseau: ‘Don’t think de-anchoring is the main explanation’ for inflation swaps trading high
- AFT's Rousseau: Looks like resumption of money market activities by sovereigns ‘have not destabilised the market’

17 May 2023
Exclusive: Austria Debt Head: Too Early To Call Number of 2023 Syndications, Decision Hinges on Deficit

Exclusive: Austria Debt Head: Too Early To Call Number of 2023 Syndications, Decision Hinges on Deficit

- Austria plans ‘to tap 2049 green bond by €1bn via auction or syndication’
- Austria ‘will continue decreasing the maturity of our new issuance’
- Green CP programme demand split 50/50 USD and euro, 1m to 3m maturity
- Reintroduction of ECB ceiling has ‘no significant implications’ for Austria’
- April syndication order book saw lot of real money investors, fewer fast money accounts

11 May 2023
Exclusive: ECB’s Šimkus: Ending APP Reinvestments from July ‘One of the Options’

Exclusive: ECB’s Šimkus: Ending APP Reinvestments from July ‘One of the Options’

- Šimkus: Active asset sales ‘could be an option some day in the future’, but not for July
- Šimkus: ‘Let’s deal with the APP and then come back to the PEPP’
- Šimkus: ‘I don’t see a pause in hiking rates in May as a likely scenario’
- Šimkus: Size of rate moves ‘will depend on the data, but we still have some way to go’
- Šimkus: ‘We still need to let the impact of past policy moves kick in’
- Šimkus: ‘Need to maintain the restrictive stance for quite some time’
- Šimkus: ‘Very unlikely that we will see any decrease in interest rates this year’
- Šimkus: OPEC oil production cut a ‘one-off factor’; no need to ‘overreact or exaggerate’
- Šimkus: Core inflation to ‘remain pretty high’ throughout 2023
- Šimkus: Core inflation ‘stickier than many people think’

6 April 2023